“You cannot bring the words terror and Islam together. If you keep doing it, then we are condemning those who do it.”
This is a familiar sleight-of-hand. It is Islamic jihad terrorists who bring terror and Islam together. When they do that, Erdogan says nothing. But when non-Muslim foes of jihad terror point out that there are some Muslims who bring terror and Islam together, Erdogan cries “Islamophobia” and pretends that the non-Muslims are responsible for the equation. Erdogan is by far not the only one who employs this tactic.
“Erdoğan rejects reference to ‘Islamic terror,'” Anadolu Agency, December 6, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A Muslim cannot be a terrorist and Islam does not produce terrorists, the Turkish president said on Dec. 5, once again rejecting the term “Islamic terrorism”.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said racism, discrimination and Islamophobia have spread like poison ivy in countries once seen as cradles of democracy.
Erdoğan’s remarks came at the inauguration ceremony of the Cambridge Central Mosque which he attended with first lady Emine Erdoğan and a group of high-level Turkish officials….
Erdoğan said workplaces, homes and places of worships of Muslims and foreigners are targeted by racists and fascist almost every day.
“Muslim women are abused only because they are wearing headscarves” in Islamophobic attacks, Erdoğan said, adding Jewish, black people and whoever looks different are targeted in similar attacks.
Especially attacks targeting places of worships have reached “incredible dimensions,” he added, recalling the mosque attack in New Zealand, church attacks in Sri Lanka and synagogues in the U.S….
“You cannot bring the words terror and Islam together. If you keep doing it, then we are condemning those who do it,” he added.
A Muslim cannot be a terrorist; Islam does not produce terrorists, Erdoğan underlined.
“We do not accept the Islamic terrorism etiquette, [a term] some insistently try to keep popular.”
Erdoğan said Turkey has been fighting ISIL more effectively than any other country, noting that 3,000 terrorists were neutralized only in Syria’a Al Bab town.
Erdoğan said he rejects any distinction of “good or bad” terrorist and all terrorists of ISIL, FETÖ, PKK/YPG, even Neo-Nazis are “bloodthirsty vampires”.
Speaking about Europe’s first eco-friendly mosque built in Cambridge, Erdoğan said the mosque will be the “best response to rising Islamophobia”….
Also attending the ceremony, British singer Yusuf Islam said the Cambridge Central Mosque will promote understanding.
Underlining that he became Muslim more than 40 years ago and his conversion was a “spiritual step forward”, Islam thanked the Turkish president and Turkey’s Religious Affairs Directorate for assistance in building the mosque….
The road to building Europe’s first eco-friendly mosque began back in 2008, when the capacity of local churches and houses was unable to meet the worship needs of local Muslims….
More than 10,000 people and groups donated money for the landmark purchase, with Turkish groups donating most generously. The Qatar National Fund also was among the donors.
Abdal Hakim Murad, together with Islam (also known as Cat Stevens), sought support for the project from Erdoğan, who was then Turkey’s prime minister….
Philis O'Shaughnessy says
Liars, TAQIYYA. muhammed was a pedophile, rapist, murderer and creating end times jihad is the goal for the cult islam.
Kirsch says
Mustafa Kamal Ataturk said on Islam…
“This absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse that poisons our minds”
CogitoErgoSum says
Is Erdogan ignorant of Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220 which states as follows:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle ﷺ said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).
Yes, Muhammad used terror as a means of gaining access to the treasures of the world from which the people are to benefit … or did Bukhari simply compile a book of lies?
Muhammad himself connected terrorism with Islam. Is Erdogan saying Muhammad was wrong to do the — Muhammad, the man who was Allah favorite of all men and the man who could do not wrong? Why aren’t the Muslims marching in the streets protesting this slander from Erdogan against Muhammad?
Mark Orfanos says
Thank you! I too post verses from Islam’s most trusted sources. Another source I use that is quite the smoking gun is Reliance of the Traveller. It is the authentic Shariah book in Islam. Lots o crickets from the opposition when I quote it in debates! Once again, thank you for your post!
CogitoErgoSum says
Thanks for your thank you and thanks for reminding me that I need to become more familiar with Reliance of the Traveler. I’ve been meaning to read it but keep getting distracted. I’m sure it’s as much of a slog to get through as the Koran is though. It’s definitely not the intellectual aspects of Islam (ha, it makes me laugh to type that out) that attracts people to the religion so much as it is the permission that it grants a person for raping, killing and looting. Otherwise, it’s as boring as time spent in a cell in Hell.
CogitoErgoSum says
The sloppiness of that last paragraph above bugs me so I just have to do it over. I apologize for that. Here is how it should have been written:
Muhammad himself connected terrorism with Islam. Is Erdogan saying Muhammad was wrong to do that — Muhammad, the man who was Allah’s favorite of all men and the man who could do no wrong? Why aren’t Muslims marching in the streets protesting this slander by Erdogan against Muhammad?
Mural says
Erdogan is right. Islam does not produce terrorists. All these people all true adherents of Islam and hence true believers in the eyes of Islam who are following allah’s instructions to the T.
The fact that they terrorize people from other religions is correct as the un-believers deserve to be terrorized.
CJ says
Saying Mohammed wasn’t a true muslim sounds like blasphemy to me.
What’s the penalty for blasphemy under sharia again?
Jaladhi says
Ha, ha, ha,… surely he is joking!! We see it everyday to which religion the terrorists swear their allegiance? Hint, hint,.. Go read your book of peace, you will get your answer!!
FYI says
“A spiritual step forward” says yusuf islam{cat stevens} on his conversion to islam..
To allah{“the BEST of deceivers” k3:54}?
The Arab god of the muslims who HATES music,musical instruments and especially female singers{Reliance of the traveller Umdat al salik r40.1}
The god who gets everything wrong
The god whose “perfect” koran is so full of errors that by allah’s own criterion of k4:82 it must come from “other than allah”
The god who MISSED the Golden Rule
And the spiritual symbol of moral goodness in islam is..?
muhammed
A self-confessed liar al tabari 6:111
A mass -murderer of Jews Abu dawud 4390
A self-confessed terrorist Sahih Bukhari 4:52:220
If islam’s prophet was a self confessed TERRORIST and all muslims are required to follow his sunnah then it is a LIE to say a muslim cannot be a terrorist.
Michael Copeland says
“The Quran directly commands us to commit terrorism” – Ragab Hilal Hamida, MP, Egypt
“…to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies” — Brig-Gen. S. K. Malik
“Terrorism is part of Islam!” – Abu Izzadeen
“Every Muslim is a potential terrorist” – Nassim ben Iman
WPM says
For a man who hates the Kurds, wants to wipe them from the face of the earth the Kurds are Moslem and he calls them violent terrorist .Moslems have been calling other Moslems of different branches of that rotten tree of Islam terrorist ,non-human or worst for over thousand years. Moslems have never held back on violently murdering other Moslem ,enslaving ,and subjugating other sites of Islam. They have been trying to out Islam each other in body counts for 1390 years after Mohammad took his dirt nap.
Martin says
Turkish Radio & Television – TRT – Eco-friendly Mosque: Turkish president opens Europe’s first eco-friendly mosque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLB5BJQ3E4I
CogitoErgoSum says
Yeah, save the environment and pollute the minds of men with the filth of Islam.
OLD GUY says
AMEN
medforth says
Austria: Social Democratic politician sentenced for membership in Islamic terrorist organisation
The 44-year-old convict has a turbulent political past. In addition to his function as Social Democratic SPÖ substitute community councillor, he was youth officer of the Islamic religious community Linz (IRG). The man is also active in the ALIF (Austria Linz Islamic Federation), which is considered “nationalistic and fundamentalistic” by the security authorities. The convicted terrorist with Turkish roots has Austrian citizenship. When the scandal arose in 2017, the man was still a teacher of religion in Wels. State school board president Enzenhofer removed him from the teaching profession and imposed a ban on teaching. The SPÖ also dissociated itself from him “by mutual agreement” in August 2017. The accusations were serious; the courts had been ruling against the accused since 2018. By publishing a video in which the Islamist jihad was praised, he would have fulfilled the requirements of membership in a terrorist organisation as well as membership in a criminal organisation. The film was publicly available on the political official’s Facebook profile from 2013 to 2017, with a supporting commentary. The video shows flags of the Islamic state, glorified by the then IS leader Omar Al Baghdadi. The text literally said “My brother, what’s the matter with you that you don’t want to go to war…””Brother” is an interesting keyword in this context, because the brother of the legally convicted was active in the Austrian People’s Party ÖVP at the same time. He was also excluded from the party. The case shows well how radically Islamist persons in Austria engage in democratic parties. The parties did not examine the background of the men, nor did they look more closely at their public appearances and statements. At the time, commentators in the social media speculated that it was probably more important for the parties to fulfil a certain quota of migrants than to question the democratic suitability of their functionaries. An accusation that can hardly be denied when one considers that the IS supporters’ video was publicly shown for four years.It is noteworthy that the leftist newspaper Standard called the man the “head of an Islamist association. Last Wednesday, the case of the ex-religion teacher was dealt with once again before the Higher Regional Court. The court had to decide on the sentence, the facts had – as explained above – already been legally decided.Surprisingly, the court increased the prison sentence by two. Instead of the six months in the first instance, this time the judges sentenced to twelve months. In view of the fact that the maximum sentence prescribed by law is 10 years’ imprisonment, the verdict was still rather lenient. The Islamic associations for which the man was active (or possibly is still active today) have never distanced themselves from him. As the newspaper Volksblatt aktuell reports, the heads of the IRG and the ALIF visited the convicted man a few days before the trial and provocatively published photos of the meeting.
More:
https://searchlight-germany.blogspot.com/2019/12/austria-social-democratic-politician.html
Wellington says
And Poland invaded Germany to start WWII.
Chaz says
He needs to stop drinking that camel piss, it’s killing all his brain cells:-)
Laurence says
OK, we know that the coined word ‘Islamophobia’ actually means “irrational fear of Islam” however anyone who knows even a little about Islam and it’s origins, teachings, practices, and history knows that there is nothing irrational about having a sound-of-mind and “rational” (“consistent with or based on or using reason” and “sensible, sane, moderate; not foolish or absurd or extreme” – Canadian Oxford Dictionary) view of Islam, and thus potentially hold a realistic and understandable fear of it (as to what it can be in its undiluted form).
And actually those who are being irrational are the very ones who are using the word ‘Islamophobic’ in its accusatory and derogatory sense as they fling such slurs out against another; and whether these irrational finger pointers know what they are doing or know not what they are doing, nonetheless they are the ones being irrational and I might add, doing wrong. And to knowingly, or ignorantly (due to being uninformed or misinformed), do wrong to oneself is one thing, however to set out to try and get others to fall into and tow the line of Islamic propaganda about Islam essentially being a “religion” of peace and goodwill to one and all, etc., (cough, cough – excuse me), or to marginalize or silence those who do not agree and are opposed to the lie the finger pointers tell, is a whole other matter. And it is not a small matter but a very serious matter indeed.
Also, as to Erdogan’s comment of “You cannot bring the words terror and Islam together. . .” sure you can – here let me show you: ‘terrorislam’ and “islamterror”. Ahem.
Michael Copeland says
“Out of the mosques wars should proceed”
Ayatollah Khomeini
Charles the Hammer says
Islam is a cancer on the earth, and has been for 14 centuries.
somehistory says
It’s all in the definition. Governments can’t even agree on one definition of terrorism. Even within the government of one nation, with many different agencies, there can be many different definitions.
Basically, the word means that a person or group engages in violence against citizens of a nation in order to cause the government of that nation to change its policy and make those changes in favor of the person or group engaging in the violence. And each nation sees terrorism, as do most of their citizens, as criminal.
Because moslims see themselves as fighting for islam and the furtherance of islam and the extra “rights” of moslims to have things better than those they hate, and use violence and terror to get people…not necessarily the governments….to make changes in their behavior, they don’t define those actions as “terrorism.” They define those actions by the meaning they assign to the word “jihad.” And they never see their “jihad” as criminal.
CogitoErgoSum says
The same could be said for the way they define the word “liar.”
Rob Frazer says
“Muslim women are abused only because they are wearing headscarves.”
Yeah, the abuse is that they are in headscarves in the first place…
Mural says
+1
Save Europe says
….and also I read a story only a year ago about how a Turkish woman was beaten by a man, on a bus, for NOT wearing a Hijab! Erdogan’s hypocrisy is incredible!
hitrestart1 says
Yeah, Muslims can’t be terrorists just like POCs can’t be racist.
What a braying jackass.
unbeliever1 says
“You cannot bring the words terror and Islam together. If you keep doing it, then we are condemning those who do it,” he added.
Would someone ‘splain here;to paraphrase Ricky Ricardo.
FireFox says
Islam is 1984 doublethink in practice.
Islam is peace, …yah, right after the last kufar is converted, subjugated, or killed – then Islamic peace follows.
Terror=Islam=being forced to condemn the terrorist, …which allah can’t do because ‘kill and be killed’ is the greatest religious act a moslem can commit and it is rewarded and revered but never condemned. It’s like Palestinians being paid if they kill a Jew. Commiting terror and murder against a Jew, Christian, or kufar is a command of allah and is ok because infidels are not innocent. Just like raping an infidel woman is ok, …they are kufar whores.
It is all deceit and taqiya.
But to Erdogan it is the truth of Islam.
And he is smart enough to know it works on the dhimmi-class open-arm infidels.
Moslems cannot think any other way because it would be an offence to Islam and it would shatter their belief that they are superior and point to Islam being false. That would make them a blaspheming apostate and they would be targeted for death. So most refuse to think critically about Islam.
Islam is anti- logic, anti-intellectual, backwards and barbaric.
I can never trust any moslem, ever, knowing what I know now about Islam.
Islam truly belongs back in the desert.
But it’s here and everywhere, and there will be civil wars on free land as their population increases. Guaranteed. Because it’s their sought after destiny of the end-times. What a mistake it was letti g them come here. God help us.
GuyGadbous says
Erdogan only needs to look in the mirror to find a terrorist….
elee says
Erdogan trots out this line from time to time. Muslims find his logic unassailable. Oh and his party in Turkey says hell be caliph by 2023 and collect jizya from all of us.
Francis Weber says
Has 8:12 been deleted from the Quran?
Kenek says
“Islam does not produce terrorists”
Are there ANY circumstances where moslems are allowed to tell the truth. Do moslems even understand what the word (truth) means? Certainly the inbred fatherless child rapist named mohamed never did . This assumes the homosexual pervert ever existed. 99% of the worlds terrorists are moslem.
Logic , reason , philosophy and honesty are are haram under sharia law. moslems don’t even trust moslems, certainly no infidel should ever trust one.
gravenimage says
Muslims tell the truth when they are emboldened enough.
Tom says
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it doesn’t matter that you call it a parrot, it is a duck.
The vast majority of acts of terror are committed by Muslims, not fascists or white supremacists, as Erdogan suggests.
Ignoring the facts and reality in order to spin lies to intimidate the spineless politicians and left wing of the west into denying reality, is a pathetic attempt at intimidation, and the vast majority of people in the west will see through it.
Times are changing throughout Europe and nationalist politicians are gaining ground and this attempt by Erdogan is obviously a reaction to this rise in populism.
FYI says
If it looks like an islamic terrorist,runs around like an islamic terrorist and screams in arabic like an islamic terrorist..
1}It is OBVIOUSLY an islamic terrorist
2}To the MSM/Police: “it’s got nothing to do with islam”
Christopher Watson says
Wonderful. I laughed my socks off!
Infidel says
I agree w/ Erdogan here. Turkic conquerors like Mahmoud of Ghazni, Tamerlane, Suleiman the Magnificient, Toqtameqh of the Tatars, et al may have looked like terrorists to the people they massacred, but to Muslims, they were just great conquerors who attained glory by spreading Islam and killing infidels
SAFI says
Yep. And nobody’s more proud of that history than Erdogan…
Infidel says
Yep! The Turks were a bigger Islamizing force in history than the Arabs – ironic given how one of Islam’s central themes is Arab, not Turkic supremacy
gravenimage says
Erdogan: A Muslim cannot be a terrorist; Islam does not produce terrorists
……………
In other words, slaughtering unbelievers is just peachy, so we’ll call it something other than terrorism.
Norger says
So ”Yusef Islam” attended this ceremony. That would be the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens, who was famously quoted as saying that Salman Rushdie should be killed for writing the Satanic verses. Hey, if Yusef Islam f/k/a Cat Stevens says that Islam can’t be linked to terrorism, who am I to disagree?
Save Europe says
So….. EVERY Muslim terrorist IS NOT a terrorist, because they are simply doing what they should do, which is an organic phenomenon. That’s what he’s admitting.
FireFox says
Islam is 1984 doublethink in practice.
Islam is peace, …yah, right after the last kufar is converted, subjugated, or killed – then Islamic peace follows. But they won’t tell you that.
Terror=Islam=being forced to condemn the terrorist, …which allah can’t do because ‘kill and be killed’ is the greatest religious act a moslem can commit and it is rewarded and revered but never condemned. It’s like Palestinians being paid if they kill a Jew. Commiting terror and murder against a Jew, Christian, or kufar is a command of allah and is ok because infidels are not innocent. Just like raping an infidel woman is ok, …they are kufar whores. But they won’t tell you that.
It is all deceit and taqiya.
But to Erdogan it is the truth of Islam.
And he is smart enough to know it works on the dhimmi-class open-arm infidels.
Moslems cannot think any other way because it would be an offence to Islam and it would shatter their belief that they are superior and point to Islam being false. That would make them a blaspheming apostate and they would be targeted for death. So most refuse to think critically about Islam.
Islam is anti- logic, anti-intellectual, backwards and barbaric.
I can never trust any moslem, ever, knowing what I know now about Islam.
Islam truly belongs back in the desert.
But it’s here and everywhere, and there will be civil wars on free land as their population increases. Guaranteed. Because it’s their sought after destiny of the end-times. What a mistake it was letti g them come here. God help us.
no one says
Reliance of the Traveller: chapter o.9 pages 599 to 606 Title: Jihad, Islamic sharia law. Never ever hire, marry, listen to a Muslim, you’ll never hear the truth.
MJP says
He is a fool Terrorism is what the Quran is all about & if somebody is stupid enough to believe in what is printed in that waste of paper & cardboard with a 109 references to committing terrorist acts they are capable of being a Terrorist.
Mark Berlinger says
There’s Great Commentary In This Thread!
The “go to smear” applied by corporate media propagandists and their Islamic apologist allies about anyone willing to discuss Jihad terror and Sharia oppression of women, gays and non-Muslims, is a reiteration of the phony social justice infraction weaponized by the Muslim Brotherhood — “Islamophobia.”
There is nothing irrational about fearing a political ideology determined to subjugate the world.
Nathan Dunning says
All Muslims are Terrorist’s in Waiting.
JamesC says
Apparently 30,000+ jihadis can be wrong. They think they are killing for allah – but they aren’t. Erdogan’s thesis leaves a lot of Islam in need of explanation.
Is Erdogan saying the Koran teaches error ? STM a fatwa may be called for. He is clearly a hypocrite, such as allah’s perfect, glorious Koran warns believers against.
Crusades Were Right says
Dear Mr Erdogan,
Please look up the following: “no true Scotsman fallacy”.
Sincerely,
Crusades Were Right
(lol)
jca reid says
One is watching a megalomaniac on the rant! Surely there are sensible, secular Turks on the Ataturk mould that can sort this man & his sycophants out.